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No, my Industrial doesn't sound like an angry robot in a blender, nor is it about vampires getting fucked by androids. Deal with it.

Donald Fletcher @DonaldFletcher

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i do stuff.

Penn State (Harrisburg)

Palmyra, Pennsylvania

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Well software such as Ejay and others as long as you buy the software you are allowed to use them and claim the mix you make as your own it says so in the back of the box and on the license in the software

I know dude. Thanks for commenting by the way. The point I was making wasn't on legality. I'm speaking on the assumption that everyone is going as much by the book as we are. The drum samples I use all the time were purchased under the same sort of license.

So of course we're allowed to use loops. My main point is that so many artists on here are falling short because they're restricting themselves to using loops and loops alone, fresh right off the CD or download, and thus selling themselves short by limiting their creative potential. As a result many tracks can sound boring, uninteresting, or ear-bleedingly repetitive.

The latter is especially true in the more electronic genres like ours, where a hard bass or similar forceful effect used like a hammer on the same part of the stereo is going to be like Chinese water torture of the ear. Something as simple as panning to the effect or periodically adjusting the EQ eliminates this problem, and most of the time when you're using loops this can be a little difficult and, if nothing else, a lot less clean than rearranging samples of a single beat. But even with loops minor adjustments work wonders.
Hope that clears things up!

Cheers,
DEF

I wouldn't use loops if I had a bass and a drum. Sasly, I only have a guitar. In my opinion, loops can help, just like taking the same recording and using it every time the chorus comes up, but I have to agree that loops will never do as much for you as a real instrument will. I've almost abandoned loops completely, and switched to synthesizers. Not keyboard ones, the ones where you basically write the notes down and it plays them for you. I like them because they let me write my own songs and then bring them to life.

I personally write my songs in a tab editor called 'Tuxguitar.' Think Guitar Pro without the RSE and some of the effects working. I then export every track as a MIDI and then import them into Magix and use the appropriate synthesizer.

Sometimes I just use some weird synthesizers, like Robota, a drum thing that allows the use of 4 parts on a weird thing where you basically click what 1/16 note you want in 4 bar editor, or Drum and Bass, basically a hybrid of a mutant drum thing that you have a bunch of blocks for the drums where you select what pattern/sound to play, along with the background pattern that always plays, and a filter/volume thing that allows the volume to change throughout the beat or a filter to effect the drum, and a bass not thing that you pick which note plays where and if it's natural, flat, or sharp.

Woah... This was supposed to be a short comment... Anyways, what do you think of synthesizers?

Definitely, soft synths are awesome. I used to work with plain old MIDI and tweak it with a few basic effects, which sounded acceptable, but a good soft synth blows that away. Without a doubt, VST is the best thing to happen to home-brewed music since the personal computer.
I also use a program called SawCutter, which is in a world of its own. If you just have to make a sound that behaves a certain way, or you need to make your own specialized instruments, sometimes you have to do it from scratch and that's what SawCutter's about. It's deep, but it's one of my favorite programs of all time.
I used to use a great drum machine clone called Hammerhead Rhythm Station, but lately I've just been mixing recorded one-shot samples together in Acid Pro. It's not as neat and clean as a single loop or a tight little synth, but it gives me the on-the-fly flexibility I need to get things just right.

That's how I do it. In condensed form, obviously!

Thanks for the great comment. It's great that someone on NG actually agrees with me, haha

Did you drink your bleach... er juice today?

Loops do have their place in music, but overuse definitely can ruin the potential of a piece of music.

So that's what I mixed up with my rum... damn, that explains the white hair I saw in the mirror this morning. And I was blaming that on The Call of Cthulhu.

But yeah, I totally agree. Whenever possible they should be avoided though. Like this effect I'm using in the song I'm writing now could never be as useful if I hadn't created the instrument in SawCutter. This industrial library I bought from Sony has a lot of similar effects in loop form, but I've got no real control over the notes in them, except for basically shifting the pitch, which is a bitch. I don't know why I went out of my way to rhyme that, but in any regard it's true. Pitch shifting not only shifts the notes but also the reverb, noise, and everything else.. which sounds like a dry asshole with diarrhea.
End tangent.

How's that for delightful imagery?